Chatter: Scientifically Valid Self-Experiments At Home (for IOP)
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david 4.3k
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Here's a step-by-step overview for conducting a scientifically valid self-experiment at home, specifically aimed at identifying dietary supplements that may help you achieve and maintain healthy intraocular pressure (IOP). The methodology ensures rigor, validity, and actionable results.

If you are new to using the scientific method, you may want to read some supplementary information, and/or ask follow-up questions (which you can do below this post or on the FitEyes email list) after reading the steps below.


1. Clearly Define Your Objective

Establish your goal explicitly.

Example: "I aim to identify dietary supplements that consistently lower or help maintain a healthy intraocular pressure (IOP) measured using a home tonometer."


2. Choose Your Supplements and Dosage

Consider specific dietary supplements based on reputable scientific literature or clinical studies known to potentially affect IOP.

Consider supplements such as:

  • Magnesium (e.g., MitoMAG)
  • Omega-3 fatty acids (EPA/DHA)
  • Ginkgo biloba
  • CBG
  • Palmitoylethanolamide (PEAmium)

Here's a full list you can consult for ideas:

Various Natural Compounds of Interest In Supporting Healthy Intraocular Pressure | Ask FitEyes

Define clear dosages and schedules based on existing research or recommendations.

I suggest picking one single supplement or a small synergistic combination of supplements (such as rutin + forskolin, or bilberry + pine bark extract, which have been shown to work together). This approach allows you to see the effect of isolated supplements, and it is the typical scientific approach. The main caveat is that you may miss some synergies found when multiple supplements are combined, and testing one (or a few) at a time takes longer.


3. Establish Measurement Methods and Schedule

Use a reliable home tonometer (such as an iCare HOME 2 or Reichert 7CR) to measure IOP.

  • Consistency is key: Measure IOP according to either a time-of-day schedule or an event-based schedule (before and after activities you normally perform daily).

See more details here:

What Are Examples of the Different Approaches to Home Eye Pressure Monitoring? | Ask FitEyes

  • Establish baseline: Spend at least 7-10 days (longer is better) collecting baseline measurements without taking the supplement(s) you plan to test. Record multiple daily readings.

4. Experimental Design

Employ a simple yet robust study design such as:

A-B-A Design (Baseline → Intervention → Washout):

Phase Duration Procedure
A 7-10+ days Baseline measurements (no supplements)
B 30-60+ days Supplement phase (treatment)
A 30 days Washout (stop supplement, back to baseline)
  • If you wish to test multiple supplements, do so sequentially (one at a time), separated by a washout phase to eliminate carryover effects.

  • Ideally, maintain stable lifestyle factors (diet, sleep, physical activity) throughout all phases to minimize confounding variables.


5. Data Collection

Maintain a detailed daily log including:

  • Date and time of each measurement.
  • IOP readings.
  • Supplement details (type, dosage, timing).
  • Relevant lifestyle factors (sleep duration, hydration, physical activity, stress levels).
  • Any additional notes (side effects, unusual conditions).

Example daily log entry:

Date Time IOP #1 IOP #2 Average IOP Supplement Dosage Sleep Notes
2025-03-21 08:00 17 18 17.5 mmHg Magnesium BHB 400mg 7 hrs Slight headache, good hydration

6. Analysis of Results

At the end of each experimental phase:

  • Group your IOP measurements into daily buckets and compute a mean for each bucket. (Details of the bucket method are beyond the scope of this overview document, but the concept is to divide each day into equal length blocks, and treat each block as a single IOP value to average to obtain the day's overall IOP.)
  • Compute the average, median, and range of your daily IOP readings (ideally, using the buckets method).
  • Visually graph your daily average IOP measurements (line charts recommended) to identify trends.
  • Compare your intervention periods with baseline and washout phases to assess significant differences.
  • Simple statistical methods (available in most spreadsheet programs) can help confirm statistically meaningful differences. But visual inspection is often enough.

Criteria for a successful supplement:

  • Significant reduction in IOP during the supplement phase compared to baseline and washout.

  • Consistency across multiple measurement points.


7. Interpretation and Conclusions

Interpret your data carefully:

  • Confirm reproducibility: A second round of testing the same supplement can validate your initial findings. This is highly recommended!

  • Consider placebo effects: The washout phase helps control for potential placebo effects.

  • Account for external factors: Document any confounding factors clearly to interpret results accurately.


8. Document and Share Findings

For increased scientific validity and value:

  • Document clearly your method, results, and conclusions in an organized report or notebook.

  • If comfortable, share your data with healthcare providers or relevant patient/research communities (such as FitEyes.com) to gain valuable insights or peer reviews.


9. Safety and Ethical Considerations

  • Consult a healthcare provider who has knowledge of dietary supplements.
  • Immediately stop and consult medical help if experiencing adverse effects.
  • Never make drastic changes to medication or medical treatment without consulting a qualified professional.

Example Timeline:

  • Day 1–10: Baseline IOP (no supplements)
  • Day 11–70: Magnesium BHB (400 mg/day)
  • Day 71–100: Washout (no supplements)

  • Repeat: as needed, to confirm the results


By following this structured approach, you can perform a scientifically rigorous, insightful self-experiment at home, allowing for personalized discovery of dietary supplements beneficial to maintaining a healthy intraocular pressure.

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david 4.3k
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The "Buckets" Method is an effective way to ensure extra measurements taken during certain times of the day do not disproportionately skew your daily IOP average. Here's a clear, practical guide on how to implement it:


Step-by-Step Guide for Using the "Buckets" Method to Average IOP Measurements

1. Define Time-Based Buckets

Split your day into clearly defined "time buckets" (intervals). For instance, you might select buckets as follows:

Bucket Name Time Range (Example)
Early Morning 6:00 AM – 9:00 AM
Late Morning 9:00 AM – 12:00 PM
Afternoon 12:00 PM – 3:00 PM
Late Afternoon 3:00 PM – 6:00 PM
Evening 6:00 PM – 9:00 PM
Night 9:00 PM – 12:00 AM
  • You can adjust buckets to match your measurement patterns or typical daily routine.
  • Ensure that each bucket is long enough (usually 2–4 hours) to reasonably group multiple measurements.

2. Record Each Measurement into the Corresponding Bucket

As you measure IOP throughout the day, assign each reading to its corresponding time bucket.

Example:

Date Time IOP Measurement Assigned Bucket
2025-03-21 7:15 AM 17 mmHg Early Morning
2025-03-21 7:30 AM 16 mmHg Early Morning
2025-03-21 11:20 AM 15 mmHg Late Morning
2025-03-21 5:15 PM 16 mmHg Late Afternoon
2025-03-21 5:25 PM 15 mmHg Late Afternoon
2025-03-21 9:40 PM 18 mmHg Night

3. Average Within Each Bucket (Intrabucket Averaging)

Calculate the average of all measurements that fall within each bucket.

Continuing the Example:

Bucket Measurements Intrabucket Average IOP
Early Morning 17, 16 16.5 mmHg
Late Morning 15 15.0 mmHg
Afternoon No measurements N/A
Late Afternoon 16, 15 15.5 mmHg
Evening No measurements N/A
Night 18 18.0 mmHg

Note: If no measurement occurs in a bucket, that bucket is simply skipped for that day.


4. Compute the Daily Average from the Bucket Averages

After obtaining averages for each bucket, calculate your final daily IOP by averaging the intrabucket averages. Each bucket counts equally, regardless of how many measurements were within it.

Example Calculation:

Using the data above:

Daily IOP} = (16.5 + 15.0 + 15.5 + 18.0) / 4 = 16.25 mmHg

Your single daily IOP value for March 21, 2025, is 16.25 mmHg.


Why the "Buckets" Method is Beneficial:

  • Prevents disproportionate weighting due to multiple measurements in certain periods.
  • Ensures daily average reflects stable trends rather than random measurement spikes or dips.
  • Makes daily averages comparable across different days with varying measurement schedules.

Summary of Steps:

  1. Divide the day into buckets (time intervals).
  2. Place each measurement into its correct bucket.
  3. Calculate an average IOP for each bucket.
  4. Obtain the day's single IOP value by averaging the bucket averages.

Applying this structured approach ensures your data accurately reflects true daily IOP levels, yielding scientifically robust results for self-experimentation.

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Great post, will use it! However, I would like to ask how to interpret the following situation:

Taking 3 measurements (6 small icare hits x 3 times) produces 16mmhg, 15mmhg, 12mmhg at the same eye. What do one understands from it? (consider I'm doing it without any time off, it's 3 in a row)

Thanks!

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Record all three IOP values (with the time stamps). You'll record 16, 15, and 12 for that eye, with each measurement a few seconds or a minute apart.

There are several different phases of this research:

  1. collect and record all of your data. Don't leave out any measurements. Record every single one. Also include notes about anything you think is relevant.
  2. understand your data as it is. Establish your baseline. Get to know your data very well.
  3. then you can try some experiments or "treatments." These could be supplements, but they could also be experiments to help you understand why you get this amount of variability in three sequential exams. Again, record all of your IOP measurements. No exceptions.
  4. then go back to the baseline and record more IOP.
  5. now that you have all this data and your notes, you can begin to think about what your data is telling you.

As an example, I found out that my IOP can go from 15 or 16 to 12 almost instantly just by relaxing the muscles in my face. Maybe you are slightly tense on the first measurements and finally relax a bit. The tension in the muscle is very subtle and hard to notice. Without IOP monitoring you might never realize you have any tension in this area.

Once you have a theory (e.g., "facial muscle tension raises my IOP"), you have to test it very carefully over time to confirm if it is true for you.

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